Brandon ([info]keledraigh) wrote,
@ 2006-11-02 11:25:00
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Names
I am dealing with a dilemma.....

On April 13th 1977 I was born and named Brandon Marr Cashion, and thus I lived for 5 years through divorces and remarriages whereupon my Birth-Father, Tim decided to allow my Step-Father Ron to legally adopt me. At that time I made a very powerful choice. I was standing between two worlds and at 5, I decided that I wanted to retain who I had been while still moving forward to who I wanted to be, thus I was named Brandon Marr-Cashion Spratt. My previous last name became a part of my middle name and thus I retained my identity in all forms of who I was.

Now 24 years later, I am facing a similar identity. I am preparing to get married (2nd marriage for anyone who is counting), and My fiancee and I have been discussing what our names would be. We are not a couple who believes in convention and thus do not just accept the western (Euro-centric) viewpoint that my last name must overtake hers.

Thus I was prepared to take her name, .....new journey, new name......

Now I mentioned this to my mother, who literally broke down in tears and begged me not to "do this to my father who gave me the gift of his name". I truly respect my family and I am proud of who I am as a result of their upbringing of me.

So as a result of guilt, I am now confused over how to proceed.
1) If we take my name, I am asking my wife to set aside her values for the patriarchal customs of the society we were born into.
2) If I take her name, I risk losing my family based upon the shame I would bring to them by so easily throwing away my name. (Words told to me, by the way)
3) We both keep our own names, thus eliminating this issue but it does lead issues when trying to establish yourself as a family in the U.S. as some agencies restrict the definitions to those with the same last name.
4) We hyphenate our last names, but that actually carries all the issues of the above possibilities.

Problems foreseeable in any possible move forward include:
The absolute fight that exists for a man to change his name upon marriage, versus the ease for a woman to do the same due to customs, procedures, and policies already in place.
No matter what choice we make, what then should the children's surname be?

This is a perplexing discussion and so I want to see if anyone might have any advice.




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[info]ziggy_prime
2006-11-02 06:36 pm UTC (link)
My 2x10^-2 cents

Cynthia hyphendated her last name to Lee-Springer when we married, and when we divorced it felt like she peeled off my name like some soiled rubber glove.

Based on your issues, you might have her legally take your name, but socially refer to each other in changing terms. For example, depending on who you are talking to, you could be "Mr. and Mrs. Spratt" or "Mrs. and Mr. X" (don't know her last name.

Logistically, it will be difficult if you don't have the same last name. Cynthia and I still have problems, as Addi's last name is Springer and she changed her's back to Lee.

I guess I don't have a lot of helpful advice, but, then, I am pretty wiped out at the moment.

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[info]kinzokutaka
2006-11-03 12:54 am UTC (link)
Aside from the possible silliness of having two hyphenated names (you could already remove the hyphen from "Marr-Cashion"), I would probably lean towards hyphenating both your names, and both of you taking the combined name. Therefore both of your families are respected, you're following an unconventional route, and you don't have to worry about US agencies or children's last names.

Good luck, no matter what you choose!

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[info]detsher77
2006-11-03 05:11 pm UTC (link)
I think you should just make your current last name into your third middle name. :) Just move the others down like you did before :D Then we both share the same last name which makes everything easier legally, but you're still keeping your last name in some way.. Sorry, that just came to me.

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[info]robynsong
2006-11-03 11:21 pm UTC (link)
Ah, the Name Game. Gotta Love it. Had to go through it myself.

I agree with persephone79. You should do what you want and what feels right. I know that when Josh and I get married, I plan on taking my last name as one of my middle names. That's what my aunt did as well. In our family, the Buchanan and Campbell names mean a lot to us. And, technically, I wasn't even supposed to be a Campbell. I was supposed to be a Polston. Thank Gods I didn't get that..lol

Anywho, do what you want. Have fun with it.

Oh, and the kids? If you're referring to children-not-born-yet, their last names can be anything you want. To children-already-living, leave the choice up to them. If you make a big deal out of it, they will feel pressured to choose. If they WANT to choose, let them.

I'm rambling...
Later.

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